Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > 2009/2/23 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be <mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> > > > > The copy could be you in the deeper sense that it could be you even in > the case where he loses some memory, all memories, or in case he got > new memories, including false souvenirs. But then it is like in the > movie "the prestige", your brother can be you. This path leads to the > idea that we are already all the same person. It is "not being the > other" which is an illusion in that case. I don't insist on this > because we don't need to see that arithmetic is the theory of > everything (and that physics comes from there). But it is needed for > the "other hypostases" and the whole theological point. > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/%7Emarchal/> > > > If the "copy" has no memory of being me then It's not me... or you > mean there is something which is not memory but which is "me" (and > render memory useless as primary property of the self) ? > > It is a matter of semantic but if you accept that memory is not what > can be ascribe to "you" then "you/I/..." doesn't mean anything... in > that sense you are me and vice-versa, and everyone is everyone but I > don't see this as a theory of self identity. > > Regards, > Quentin I tend to agree with Quentin that memories are an essential component of personal identity. But that also raises a problem with ideas like "observer moments" and "continuity". Almost all my memories are not being remembered at an given time. Some I may not recall for years at a time. I may significant periods of time in which I am not consciously recalling any memories. So then how can memories and continuity be essential? I practice we rely on continuity of the body and then ask, "Does this body have (some) appropriate memories?"
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