Kim Jones wrote:
> On 23/03/2009, at 1:56 AM, John Mikes wrote:
>
>   
>> Russell,
>> you are not alone  as the target of this remark...
>>
>> Many people consider 'creativity' (like "change", "quality" etc.) a  
>> POSITIVE concept. - WRONG. -
>> Just consider the recent creative financial genius Maddoff, with his  
>> b$50 scam - he was creative. And so are tyrants, criminals, galore.  
>> (Don't forget politicians<G>)
>>     
>
>
> But surely people are driven by their VALUES, John? Creativity is like  
> a gun - it's about as good or as bad as the person wielding it. I  
> could go one better than you in this direction: the perpetrators of  
> 9/11 were creative geniuses (as Karlheinz Stockhausen, German composer  
> said publicly on the day of 9/11, after seeing the TV images). They  
> gave the world an incredibly potent lesson in Lateral Thinking: when  
> is a jetliner not a jetliner? When it's a BOMB...
>
> But you fail to mention the beneficial creativity of people like Ray  
> Kurzweil (My Kurzweil 2500 sampling keyboard-synthesiser will be  
> buried with me in my coffin), Tim Berners-Lee (who invented the Web)  
> and - well, I'm tempted to add Steven Wolfram for his Alpha Net engine  
> but then I can hear the howls of disapproval already.
>
> John, if it hadn't been for creativity the human race would still be  
> living in caves and living in fear of darkness and night.
>
> Creativity merely IS, like elephants and soy beans. You can use it to  
> do "good" or "wreak evil". More or less the proof that it is something  
> real and worthy of our further effort of understanding.
>
>
> Madoff was (is) indeed creative - I wouldn't give you five cents for  
> his values though. Hitler was in some respects a creative genius,  
> unfortunately he possessed very dubious values.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Kim
Actually, Madoff was just skillful - not creative.  Ponzi was creative.

Brent

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