On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 22:24 +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> I suddenly feel sorry putting too much burden on just one
> correspondent in the list, and I would appreciate if someone else
> could propose answers or any remarks to the exercises.
Bruno--you're doing great. I think it is the case where silence means
"I understand, continue", rather than disinterest.
> There is also some sort of burden onto me, because it is hard to
> explain "the real thing" concerning the seventh step, without
> explaining or just illustrating at least some relevant portion of the
> mathematical reality: mainly the unexpected mathematical discovery of
> the universal functions, sets, numbers, systems, language, machine ...
> I don't mention the absence of drawing ability which does not help.
The derivation of your thesis from first principles is a very compelling
idea. The somewhat startling and unorthodox conclusions you espouse are
bound to cause confusion unless all their underpinnings are well
understood. The arguments from others then can have a much more
specific target than the top-level conclusions; instead they will come
out earlier in the derivation process and at the time of introduction of
the controversial subject.
> The knowledge of most people participating to the discussion is very
> varied, due to the extreme transdiciplinarity of the subject, and the
> interest it can evidently have for the layman (and indeed, for any
> universal machine).
While I do have training in math and physics, I still benefit from your
targeting the motivated layman. Personally, I'm not interested in doing
the exercises on the list, but they are still useful to check my
> Best regards to all of you, and thanks for letting me know your
By all means, proceed. Personally, if I don't understand something or
have an objection, you'll hear about it on the list, but I think you
should take silence as assent.
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