Sorry I wanted to write "it does *add* nothing".

Level 0 is not part of the computation. And I still don't see how you can
relate physically running a program on a computer, a



2009/9/22 Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com>

> 2009/9/22 Flammarion <peterdjo...@yahoo.com>
>
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>> On 22 Sep, 21:29, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2009/9/22 Flammarion <peterdjo...@yahoo.com>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > > On 1 Sep, 18:14, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > 2009/9/1 Brent Meeker <meeke...@dslextreme.com>:
>> >
>> > > > The level "0" has nothing that can be detected/tested if CTM is true
>> > > > by a computational observer (us if CTM is true).
>> >
>> > > If a level 0 is part of the standard package of materialism,
>> > > it is testable because "small world" materialism makes different
>> > > predictions about
>> > > what will be observed, particularly WRs, than mathematical
>> > > many-worlds. To put it another way., the theories are as
>> > > testable as each other.
>> >
>> > No because computational observer has *no* access to any external thing.
>> If
>> > you are computational in essence I can run you and give you any input I
>> want
>> > and you can't rely on your measure to assert anything.
>>
>> It is very unlikely I would find myself in such a  contrived scenario,
>> when
>> there are many other corners of Platonia I could land in.
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> Sure, but you can't have access to level 0 if you are computational, no
> matter what you say, it doesn't play a role.
>
> If it does had nothing to the computation (and it does had nothing), I see
> no reason to postulate one... to call it propertyless or whatever, it is
> useless.
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