On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 2010/1/19 silky <michaelsli...@gmail.com>: > > > Exactly my point! I'm trying to discover why I wouldn't be so rational > > there. Would you? Do you think that knowing all there is to know about > > a cat is unpractical to the point of being impossible *forever*, or do > > you believe that once we do know, we will simply "end" them freely, > > when they get in our way? I think at some point we *will* know all > > there is to know about them, and even then, we won't end them easily. > > Why not? Is it the emotional projection that Brent suggests? Possibly. > > Why should understanding something, even well enough to have actually > made it, make a difference? > I don't know, that's what I'm trying to determine. > >> Obviously intelligence and the ability to have feelings and desires > >> has something to do with complexity. It would be easy enough to write > >> a computer program that pleads with you to do something but you don't > >> feel bad about disappointing it, because you know it lacks the full > >> richness of human intelligence and consciousness. > > > > Indeed; so part of the question is: Qhat level of complexity > > constitutes this? Is it simply any level that we don't understand? Or > > is there a level that we *can* understand that still makes us feel > > that way? I think it's more complicated than just any level we don't > > understand (because clearly, I "understand" that if I twist your arm, > > it will hurt you, and I know exactly why, but I don't do it). > > I don't think our understanding of it has anything to do with it. It > is more that a certain level of complexity is needed for the entity in > question to have a level of consciousness which means we are able to > hurt it. > But the basic question is; can you create this entity from scratch, using a computer? And if so, do you owe it any obligations? -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20 antagonist PATRIARCHATE scatterbrained professorship VENALLY bankrupt adversity bored = unint...--
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