Thanks for directing our minds into wider regions, Wei Dai. I will look into the recent ways singularity is thought of - I may be obsolete. I found tour intro to LessWrong interesting, I clicked away (not all of them) I read through Eliezer's (sample) URL-text and the 'sample' discussions attached, his text was frightening (the sweeps through unexpected nondeniable sidetracks) - a bit long, but exciting. The discussion I found mediocre, especially with watching the number of points assigned.
I have difficulty with the term 'tribal'. I have yet to find 'my tribe'. I will visit LessWrong with an open mind (mine, that is) and may expose myself to adverse reflections based on my 'bottom line' - a physicist-wise not approvable agnostic personal worldview in an interrelated wholeness of more than we know of today. It was a joy to 'meet' smart minds thinking in different ways . Some I may approve-of, with a certain "I dunno". John Mikes On 3/14/10, Wei Dai <wei...@weidai.com> wrote: > > Recently I heard the news that Max Tegmark has joined the Advisory Board of > SIAI (The Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence, see > > http://www.singinst.org/blog/2010/03/03/mit-professor-and-cosmologist-max-tegmark-joins-siai-advisory-board/ > ). > This news was surprising to me, but in retrospect perhaps shouldn't have > been. Out of the three authors of papers I cited in the original > everything-list charter/invitation, two others had already effectively > declared themselves to be Singularitarians (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularitarianism): Nick Bostrom has been on > SIAI's Advisory Board for a while, and Juergen Schmidhuber spoke at the > Singularity Summit 2009. I was also recently invited to visit SIAI for a > decision theory mini-workshop, where I found the ultimate ensemble idea to > be very well-received. It turns out that many SIAI people have been > following the everything-list for years. > > There seems to be a very strong correlation between interest in the kind of > ideas we discuss here, and interest in the technological singularity. (I > myself have been interested in the Singularity even before starting this > mailing list.) So the main point of this post is to let the list members > who > are not already familiar with the Singularity know that there is another > set > of ideas out there that they are likely to find fascinating. > > Another reason for this post is to let you know that I've been spending > most > of my online discussion time at Less Wrong > (http://lesswrong.com/lw/1/about_less_wrong/, "a community blog devoted to > refining the art of human rationality" which is sponsored by the Future > Humanity Institute, founded by Nick Bostrom, and effectively "owned" by > Eliezer Yudkowsky, founder of SIAI). There I wrote a sequence of posts > summarizing my current thoughts about decision theory, interpretations of > probability, anthropic reasoning, and the ultimate ensemble theory. > > http://lesswrong.com/lw/15m/towards_a_new_decision_theory/ > > http://lesswrong.com/lw/175/torture_vs_dust_vs_the_presumptuous_philosopher/ > http://lesswrong.com/lw/182/the_absentminded_driver/ > http://lesswrong.com/lw/1a5/scott_aaronson_on_born_probabilities/ > http://lesswrong.com/lw/1b8/anticipation_vs_faith_at_what_cost_rationality/ > http://lesswrong.com/lw/1cd/why_the_beliefsvalues_dichotomy/ > http://lesswrong.com/lw/1fu/why_and_why_not_bayesian_updating/ > > http://lesswrong.com/lw/1hg/the_moral_status_of_independent_identical_copies/ > http://lesswrong.com/lw/1iy/what_are_probabilities_anyway/ > > I initially wanted to reach a difference audience with these ideas, but > found that the Less Wrong format has several of advantages: both posts and > comments can be voted upon, the site's members uphold fairly strict > standards of clarity and logic, and the threaded presentation of comments > makes discussions much easier to follow. So I plan to continue to spend > most > of my time there, and invite other everything-list members to join me. But > please note that the site has a different set customs and emphases in > topics. New members are also expected to have a good grasp of the current > state of the art in human rationality in general (Bayesianism, heuristics > and biases, Aumann agreement, etc., see > http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Sequences) before posting, and especially > before getting into disagreements and arguments with others. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
