On 3/17/2010 11:01 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
Suppose there were a man with no brain at all but who just happened act
exactly like a normal person. Suppose there are no people and your
whole idea that you have a body and you are reading an email is an
On 18 March 2010 16:36, Brent Meeker<meeke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
Is it coherent to say a black box "accidentally" reproduces the I/O? It is
over some relatively small number to of I/Os, but over a large enough number
and range to sustain human behavior - that seems very doubtful. One would
be tempted to say the black box was obeying a "natural law". It would be
the same as the problem of induction. How do we know natural laws are
consistent - because we define them to be so.
Jack considers the case where the black box is empty and the remaining
neurological tissue just happens to continue responding as if it were
receiving normal input. That, of course, would be extremely unlikely
to happen, to the point where it could be called magic if it did
happen. But if there were such a magical black box, it would
contribute to consciousness.
But I don't believe in magic.
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