On Nov 28, 11:36 pm, "Stephen Paul King" <stephe...@charter.net> wrote: > Hi Rex and Bruno, > > I think that you are both missing an important point by taking an from > infinity view. The fact that the world is not given to us in terms where > these is one and only one option given some condition forces us to deal with > alternatives. We can go on and on about causation and determinism but let us > get Real, there is only rarely a situation where there can only be one > singular effect to a singular cause. In fact there is never a actual > singular cause to some event so the argument falls flat because of a false > premise.
I am not sure if you are saying determinism is false as an ontological fact, or just that alternatives will subjectively appear to be open due to ignorance. >We can build and knock over straw men for ever or we can look at > Nature honesty and see that our pet theories of Monolithic Static Structure > will always be Incomplete. > Free Will, illusory or otherwise is an attempt to deal with the reality > that there are always alternatives that can occur. We promote a notion of > Agency to act as a mechanism that chooses between alternatives without bias > or cohesion and imagine that we have such an agency. I don't see why bias should be inimical to FW. > Surely this is a > falsehood from the point of view of infinity where we can imagine we can see > all of the variables, but we are only thinking of ourselves as an observer > that is external to the system that we observe and so can see its properties > and *that our means of perception of such has no effect upon what those > properties are*. This role used to be played by the notion of a Deity. Now > we find a secular version of the same thing and wonder why we make no > progress beyond this conundrum! > We are not Omniscient, we are not Omnipresent and we most certainly are > not Omnipotent. Deal with it. I don;'t see your point. Are you saying FW is the same as omnipotence? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
