On 04 Mar 2011, at 15:24, 1Z wrote:
On Mar 4, 8:02 am, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
Somehow. The fundamentality arrow is roughly like this: NUMBERS =>
UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUSNESS => PHYSICAL LAWS => BIOLOGICAL CONSCIOUSNESS.
On the other hand:
PHYSICS=>COMPUTATION=>CONSCIOUSNESS=>NUMBERS
Shows how computationalism is compatible with mathematical anti
realism
I remind you that you are the one defending computationalism (yes
doctor + Church thesis) and mathematical antirealism. I am the one
arguing that comp is incompatible with materialism/physicalism.
What is left, without materialism, could be biologicalism,
mathematicalism, ... perhaps theologicalism. The terms are not
important. To understand the reasoning and its implications is what
matter.
Computationalism needs only the common sense idea in math that if u is
a universal number then u(n) will converge or will not converge. This
can be seen as a formal statement.
Are you conceding that we have to abandon comp to keep math?
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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