On 04 Mar 2011, at 17:31, 1Z wrote:
On Mar 4, 2:20 pm, Andrew Soltau <andrewsol...@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect we all may.
Wong states that, important as a grand unified theory might be,
is lacking in one important fundamental aspect, viz., the role of
consciousness [which] could in fact be considered the most
aspect of physics."
How does he know consciousness is fundamental?
Consciousness has been put under the rug by physicists since about
It has come back through the doubtful idea of the collapse of the wave
packet. It is a way to avoid the literal many-worlds aspect of the
linear quantum evolution. This has been debunked by many since. See
the work of Abner Shimony, for example.
I remind you that we are in the everything list which is based on the
idea that "everything" is simpler than "something".
Of course Everett has given a comp phenomenological account of the
collapse with the linear equation, so that if consciousness collapse
physically "the wave, you need a non-comp theory of consciousness.
Then comp by itself is a theory of consciousness, and does provide a
transparent (I mean testable) link with consciousness, not by
identifying the mystery of consciousness with a non linear and non
mechanical phenomenon (the collapse) but by providing an explanation
of the quantum and the linear from the computationalist hypothesis.
Given that conciousness seems all too clearly to be centrally
in quantum mechanics,
That isn't clear at all
It is. In the collapse theory, it has to be the collapser (the other
theories are too vague, or refuted).
And without collapse, consciousness play the role in providing the
meaning of the first person indeterminacy, actually of the notion of
first person, from which the (hopefully quantum) many realities are
Comp makes physics a fundamental modality of consciousness, and in the
AUDA, you need only to accept the idea that consciousness is related
with an inference of self-consistency (or of the existence of self-
consistent extension). Physics is then given literally by the weighted
relative self-consistent extensions. This is a testable consequence of
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