On 3/22/2011 7:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Clearly qualia is a problem, have no idea how it could emerge.
I can explain why universal machine have qualia. It comes from the
self-reference logic. But only "rich" machine (the Löbian one), can
talk and develop discourse about their qualia, and have to be
astonished about them, until they bet that they are machines. Qualia
are sort of automated gap-filling in self-perception. They obey a
What logic is that? Do you take qualia to imply *conscious*
perception? Or do you assume consciousness is an internal discourse?
and mechanism makes the quanta a particular case of qualia. This is
even too much 'subjectivist' to me, but then I have no way to escape
On the other hand, biologists claim that even bacteria can perceive
Do those biologists pretend that bacteria have qualia? I have not much
evidence, but I would bet they do, as little universal system sharing
our histories. I have more evidence that paramecia have qualia, by
they more complex behaviors, and appearance of some amount of
information flux crossing the cell. But that might be some sort of
human projection, and I have no certainty.
In case of doubt, despite it might look a bit naïve, it is preferable
to bet that an entity has qualia, than to bet the contrary. This might
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