On 16 May 2011, at 15:08, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Stephen Paul King
<stephe...@charter.net> wrote:
Hi Brent and Everything List Members,

Let me start over and focus on the sequencing of OMs. I argue that the Schrodinger Equation does not work to generate a sequencing of Observer moments for multiple interacting observers because it assumes a physically unreal notion of time, the Newtonian Absolute time which is disallowed by the experimentally verified theory of general relativity. I will concede that I might be mistaken in my claim that the complex valuation of the observables (or, in the state vector formalism, the amplitudes) nor the hermiticity will generate a natural or well ordering that can be used to
induced an a priori sequencing of the OMs, but I would like to see an
argument that it does. Is there one? The paper by Ischam argues that there
is not...
I see this problem of OM sequencing as separate from the ideas about clocks since clocks are a classical concept that depends, in a QM universe, on decoherence or something similar to overcome the effects of the HUP on
its hands.



The subjective sequencing is independent of any real world sequence
that might occur.

Yes. It is even independent of the nature (physically "real", virtual, or arithmetical) nature of that sequence.

Today is Monday and I recall that yesterday was
Sunday. I assume that my brain generated Sunday's subjective
experiences first and then used them to generate Monday's. But this
need not necessarily be the case: it could be that that Sunday was
generated a century ago in real time, or not generated at all, and my
memories of it are false ones.

You are right. Now, in concreto, all such sequences of (3-OM) states exist in a tiny part of arithmetic. They are still sequences, and not isolated states, by virtue of being linking by universal numbers (if not, the notion of computation would have no meaning at all). This justifies that if we are machine, at some level of description, the laws of nature are given by a relative statistic on all computations existing in that tiny part of arithmetic, precisely by all the competing universal numbers linking those 3-OMs.

Bruno Marchal


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