On 5/18/2011 7:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That is how meditation and dissociative drug can help you to remind the consciousness of the "blanche machine", the consciousness of the virgin Löbian machine. Memories only differentiate consciousness.

Are you claiming that every thought includes a memory? A memory of what? The immediately preceding thought?

You lost me. I was pretending the contrary. I was with you on this. It is *because* a thought (a conscious thought) does not necessarily include a memory or a reference to previous thoughts that you can remain conscious when taking a drug which disconnect you from all memories.

Ok. I mistook your point. I agree that memory is not necessary for consciousness - though I think it is necessary for self-consciousness.


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