On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
> On 07 Jun 2011, at 00:52, Rex Allen wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>> It is not that hard to get, so would be worth your
>>> while trying to understand.
>>
>> I think I understand this already.  The whole teleporting
>> moscow-washington thing, right?
>>
>> In Platonia, there are many computational paths that branch out from
>> the current state that represents "me".
>>
>> Each of these paths looks like a "possible future" from my subjective
>> standpoint.
>>
>> But, they're not possible, they're actual.  In Platonia, they all
>> exist.  And they do so timelessly...so they're not "futures" they're a
>> series of "nows".
>>
>> So, subjectively, I have the "illusion" of an undetermined "future".
>>
>> But...really, it's determined.  Every one of those paths is
>> objectively actualized.
>>
>> So how does this prove what I said false?  All those static "futures"
>> are mine.  They're all determined.  I'm still on rails...it's just
>> that the rails split in a rather unintuitive way.
>>
>> Even if we say that what constitutes "me" is a single unbranched
>> path...this still doesn't make what I said false.  I'm one of those
>> paths, I just don't know which.  But ignorance of the future is not
>> indeterminism.  Ignorance of the future is ignorance of the (fully
>> determined)
>> future.
>
> This is an argument against any determinist theory, or any block-universe
> theory. It is an argument again compatibilist theory of free will, and an
> argument against science in general, not just the mechanist hypothesis.


Hard determinism is incompatible with science in general?


Rex

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