On 7/4/2011 1:40 AM, Constantine Pseudonymous wrote:

"1) More is answered by: A: "Math -> Matter -> Minds" (or as Bruno suggests "Math -> Minds -> Matter") than by B: "Matter -> Minds -> Math", or C: "Minds -> (Matter, Math)". "You forgot to mention the possibility that they all arise simultaneously.... or that perhaps they are all essentially the same.... perhaps they can't really be differentiated... and perhaps they don't really arise in a linear sequence... matter-> mind-> math... this is naturalism, and most peoples view... the dominant view of science and what all its work is currently based on. Bruno wants you to think that math-> mind-> matter is platonism or pythagorean... but it really isn't..... it is much much more complicated then that.....

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