Bruno, damn, this is heavy.... give me a moment to reply: you see. I can be very sure that my body exists.... a 100% sure... but I can't be sure that anything else exists.
you say: " Just now, you can hardlmy doubt you are... you know that you are conscious. You know that you ...but you know you are living it here and now." I can doubt that "I am".... but I can't doubt that "x is". But what does x mean? " You know that you are conscious. You know perfectly what it is. It is what makes pain painful. " false! false! I don't know what pain is.... I know what the word refers to.... but once I try to pay close attention to it and figure out what it is.... I don't know what it is.... it just is.... You think you know what these "things" are but once you play close attention they slip through your fingers...... they just become unintelligible names..... because "sensation" is a name...... the "thing itself" is not the word..... and the "thing itself" is unknowable. I can say that I am but I cannot say what I am or what is is........I can just say..... x is. but I know neither what x or is is. (take this seriously, I am not sophisticating) "I think that you assume the existence of a physical primitive universe." Do you mean I assume some substantial and objective reductionist state of affairs? I don't assume anything. "Mind construction are some definable, and some non definable number relation" I define any conception or notion of mind, and even the notion of mind-construction.... as by definition a "mind-construction". What on earth do you mean by number... it sounds like it is your way to make a pure abstraction out of concrete determinations. It sounds like your use of the word number is your way to transcendentalize things out of existence and convert them into pure abstract identities. ".It is the belief in a form of technologically possible reincarnation" Have you seen ghost in the shell.... if you really believed this... you should scrap or hide the theory all together. We are too corrupt and perverse for it.... we would simply stain another space of existence. Now this self-introspection that you speak of... what introspection.... what is being observed? what is the form of observation? what is observing what? what causes or constitutes or conditions the observation? When you close your eyes, are you seeing some "inner space", the inside of your skull? or the back of your eyelids? I don't want to follow you into your sci-fi salvationist technocratic world-vision. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.