Yes! perhaps Reason is the ultimate sublimated form of the argument by
authority..... and the demonstrable merely regulated to a highly limited and
relatively insubstantial plane.

back to the Sophists! lets throw out the platonic and peripatetic
presuppositions and linguistic forms  inherited  and embedded in modern
physics and thought!

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM, B Soroud <> wrote:

> but to say something positive... I like your formulation of religion as
> argument by authority.
> Religion = argument by authority.
> Now there are two forms of spirituality as barely distinguished from
> religion: theoretical spirituality and existential spirituality.
> Theoretical spirituality as indemonstrable cosmology/metaphysics/teleology
> generally grounded in the argument by authority on the one hand, or by a
> rationalist mode of procedure on the other.
> There can be existential spirituality without the inferences, postulates,
> and explanations of the theoretical assertions grounded in revelation or
> argument by authority..... and perhaps argument by persuasiveness.... i.e.
> the rhetoric of logos, pathos, and ethos....... this can be a subtle and
> sublimated form of argument by authority.

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