Apologies, meant to capitalize "Gödel" and "explain". Anal-retentive
to post just to fix that, I know.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Felix Hoenikker <fhoenikk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This reminds me of something: this is the best test question I ever
> came up with:
>
> "In the language of the Japanese quails, what was the gödel' statement
> that started the universe over again at 0 AD? explain your answer
> precisely in pure mathematical terms without appeal to the existence
> of mayan buddhists or other forms of the axiom of choice."
>
> Q.E.D.?
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1676
>>
>> "As stated above, blindsight is seen clinically as a contrast between
>> a lack of declarative knowledge about a stimulus and a high rate of
>> correct answers to questions about the stimulus (1). People suffering
>> from blindsight claim to see nothing, and are therefore unable to
>> reach spontaneously for stimuli, cannot decide whether or not stimuli
>> are present, and do not know what objects look like. In this sense,
>> they are blind. However, they are able to give correct answers when
>> asked to decide between given alternatives (1). Studies done with
>> subjects that exhibit blindsight have shown that they are able to
>> guess reliably only about certain features of stimuli having to do
>> with motion, location and direction of stimuli. They are also able to
>> discriminate simple forms, and can shape their hands in a way
>> appropriate to grasping the object when asked to try. Some may show
>> color discrimination as well (2). Subjects also show visual
>> capacities, including reflexes (e.g. the pupil reacts to changes in
>> light), implicit reactions and voluntary responses (3). "
>>
>> Sounds like absent qualia to me.
>>
>> "people suffering from blindsight claim to see nothing"
>>
>> So Stathis, Jason, Bruno... how do you know that your computer brain
>> doesn't have blindsight if it's eyes seem to work? Is it lying when it
>> says it can't see, or is it seeing without being able to look at what
>> it is seeing?
>>
>> Craig
>>
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