> In a message dated 11/9/2011 7:27:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com writes:
> Probably the one that is most convincing is direct experience. Try
> meditation (my favorite is just doing nothing while being aware not to
> snooze or think or search for something to do,etc...), or, if you are a
> more daring and very cautious and well informed, psychdelic drugs (eg
> Salvia, Mushrooms, LSD, DMT) or suspend your belief that you are just a
> person for long enough (then the reality of unity tends to reveal itself
> spotaneously). If you are in the right mindset and maybe a bit lucky you
> experience states in which it is directly evident that there is
> fundamentally no other, just this consciousness that you are.
> I see, Benjamin. But unless one takes these visions as a solipsism, I
> ask, what does this bring to the table? We humans are primates, and for
> most of us primates, we are group animals. We need each other even though
> irritate each other.
What I am describing can be said to be a kind of solipsism; only I exist,
but I being the consciousness that we all share, not "I" in the sense of me
as a person (which is usually meant when we are talking about solipsism).
We need others as an other to our personhood, but not as an other to us as
consciousness (which is what we really are, the person being more like
something we dress ourselves with). Otherness is the one seeing itself from
> At the end of the day, can one bring information, that
> would not, logically, be known, otherwise? For instance, that Uncle,
> Bruno, left a mathematical puzzle, he worked on, inscribed on page 1273,
> in the
> 1999 edition of ARS MATHEMATICA, in his old, study--something like this,
> let us say?
You mean in a paranormal way? There are many experiental results that
suggest so (even though its validity is disputed, but the criticism if often
not vindicated, in my opinion), and a lot of astounding anecdotes. But it
might not work in the way we expect, in terms of consistency,
controllability and scope.
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