Thanks Jason,
Yes, I am not sure if QTI is really Immortality, as in post-mortality, if  
memory, and personality, are destroyed? To a hammer, the entire world looks 
like  a nail; as the Japanese expression goes, so I personally wonder, if 
the old  'move' function of data processing, can somehow be analogous, to our 
minds being  moved elsewhere-sort of a copy paste function? One has to have 
a program or a  developer to execute the 'move' function, as I see it.
>> Therefore, even for those that don't survive to see the human  race 
become a trans-humanist, omega-point civilization, and for those that don't  
upload their brain, there remain paths to these other realities.   I  think 
this can address the eternal aging implied by many-worlds: eventually, the  
probability that you survive by other means, e.g., waking up as a being in a  
post-singularity existence, exceeds the probability of continued survival  
through certain paths in the wave function.<<
On a Schmidhiber-Zuse-Lloyd-Bostrum-Fredkin hypothesis, that the cosmos is  
a quantum computer, a hypercomputer, a simulation; we must first ascertain, 
how  we as subroutines in such a cosmos, can determine if this is fact or 
not?   Because this kind of pursuit seems so complicated,and frustrating, 
most  scholars just give up on the question. Then the question has to be asked, 
what  is the pay off? My answer would be, post-mortality, not necessarilly  
immortality, in the eternal sense. Jokingly, I would add to my answer that, 
this  is the best offer you'll have all day! If we can prove this. 
If we can achieve post-mortality,(biological or silicon)  as Ettinger  
longed for, as Ray Kurzweil pursues, as the people at Alcor are going for, as  
well as Vernor Vinge's uploading, then all the better for us. Living on, 
seems  less severe than biologically perishing, first. But that choice (as far 
as  we now know) is not yet available to us. So the rough road of dying and 
hoping  along the way, that we are a simulation, that will be subject to 
recurrence, is  about all we have. 

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