2011/12/8 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>

>  On 12/8/2011 8:58 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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> 2011/12/8 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
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>> On 12/8/2011 6:33 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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>>> The UD argument is not a proof of computationalism being true, is an
>>> argument that shows computationalism (I can be run on a digital computer)
>>> is not compatible with materialism. It shows that to be able to predict
>>> your next moment (if computationlism is true) then the primitive material
>>> world is of no use (if there is one).
>>>
>>
>>  I don't think so.  It is patently untrue that the material world model
>> is of no use in predicting your next experience.  In fact it is essentially
>> the only useful model for prediction.
>>
>
> That's not what I said. I said that the primitive world if any is of no
> use if we are computation, because our next moment is part of the infinity
> of computations that goes through our current state and only that. So in
> that case you use the "appearance" world not a *primitive* world.
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> You seem to be making an argument that we are not computations.  If we
> were then materialism would be a useless model.  It's not a useless model,
> therefore computationalism is false.  I'd disagree with that because is
> might be that materialism provides a useful model of compuattions.
>
> Or are you arguing that the notion of a primitive world is useless because
> we always use the world of appearance.  That I might agree with.
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>
That's what I'm arguing.

Regards,
Quentin


>  Brent
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> Quentin
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>> Brent
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