On Dec 12, 8:40 pm, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 12/12/2011 5:04 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> > On Dec 12, 12:36 pm, meekerdb<meeke...@verizon.net>  wrote:
> >> On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> >>> If recordings were conscious, wouldn't they evolve behind our backs?
> >> Why would consciousness imply evolution?  Evolution requires reproduction 
> >> and differential
> >> selection.
> > I was talking about evolving in a general sense of changing and
> > progressing, not natural selection. If a cartoon is conscious in any
> > way, why doesn't it keep going by itself?
> Maybe it requires a certain environment.  It requires a projector and screen. 
>  You require
> oxygen, food, and water.

That's just sophistry. A projector and screen can't add scenes to a
cartoon. Recordings make don't make any changes to themselves which
extend their semantic content. Unless you have a counterfactual in


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