On 31 Dec 2011, at 19:54, Craig Weinberg wrote:

Evolutionary psychology assumes a subject though. How does comp
explain subjective discomfort with self simulation?

Comp assumes a subject too. Without assuming someone is a subject, "saying yes to a doctor" would be non sensical. Any medical act, when done properly by a human doctor, assume the existence of some subject. Later, after AUDA, we can eliminate the assumption of a subject in the "theory of everything" (arithmetic), because we can prove its existence. More precisely: a rich LUM can prove its existence for a sufficiently less rich LUM. No LUM can prove that for herself.

Bruno



craig

On Dec 31, 1:22 pm, Terren Suydam <terren.suy...@gmail.com> wrote:
There's a pretty straightforward explanation in terms of evolutionary
psychology... nothing that contradicts comp.

Terren



On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:43 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 12/30/2011 4:23 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIuF5DcsbKU

The uncanny valley is a hypothesis in the field of robotics and 3D
computer animation which holds that when human replicas look and act
almost, but not perfectly, like actual human beings, it causes a
response of revulsion among human observers. The valley in question is a dip in a proposed graph of the positivity of human reaction as a
function of a robot s human likeness.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/Mori_Uncanny_Valle ...

Shouldn't our computation be pleased with the idea of being exported
out of it's slow and error prone flesh?

The valley occurs because something that looks and acts almost, but not exactly like a normal human being is also something that acts like a sick or psychotic or otherwise strange human being. Like a human being pretending to be a different human being - which
is a danger sign.  It's just generalized xenophobia.

But what is the computational justification for xenophobia? Why does
novel or unconventional computation = 'strange' rather than 'wonderful
variation'?

Craig

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