On 05.01.2012 06:29 John Clark said the following:
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Craig
Weinberg<whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote:

Sure, our belief in simulations can make them seem quite realistic
to us. That doesn't make them real though.


And so simulators join a long long long list of things that you say
are not real. If X contradicts your philosophy you just declare that
X is not real; that's what the opponents of Galileo did, they
insisted that everything rotated around the Earth but when they
looked through Galileo's telescope they could clearly see that
Jupiter's moons rotated around Jupiter NOT the Earth. So what was
their response to this powerful evidence? You guessed it, things seen
through a telescope were not "real".


If to talk about Galileo, then it would also good to remember Feyerabend (for example Against method). Feyerabend has studied the way Galileo has made science a lot and his conclusion

"The church at the time of Galileo was much more faithful to reason than Galileo himself, and also took into consideration the ethical and social consequences of Galileo's doctrine. Its verdict against Galileo was rational and just, and revisionism can be legitimized solely for motives of political opportunism."

Evgenii

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