On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> There is no way consciousness can have a direct Darwinian advantage > so it must be a byproduct of something that does have that virtue, and the > obvious candidate is intelligence.\ > > > > That's not so clear since we don't know exactly what is the relation of > consciousness to intelligence. For a social animal having an internal > model of ones self and being able to model the thought processes of others > has obvious reproductive advantage. >
To do any one of the things you suggest would require intelligence, and indeed there is some evidence that in general social animals tend to have a larger brain than similar species that are not social. But at any rate we both seem to agree that Evolution can only see behavior, so consciousness must be a byproduct of some sort of complex behavior. Thus the Turing Test must be valid not only for intelligence but for consciousness too. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.