# Re: The free will function

```Thanks, I'll give it another shot. All the best,   marty a.
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From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
Sent: Sat, February 25, 2012 5:05:35 AM
Subject: Re: The free will function

Hi Marty,

On 25 Feb 2012, at 01:51, marty684 wrote:

>>
>>Why should probability depend on us; on what we 'know or cannot know' ? On
>>what
>>is 'observable' to us? It seems to me that you are defining probability by
>>that
>>which is relative to our 'actual states'. Why can't we
>>inhabit a seeminglyprobablistic part of an infinite, determined universe ?

But that is the case. If you define the reality by a tiny part of arithmetic
(equivalent with the UD), you have a deterministic structure, which from our
points of view will look indeterministic.

The probability are relative to us, because we are the one doing the
experience.
Suppose you decide to throw a coin. To predict what will happen to you you have
to look at all the computation accessing the computational state you have when
throwing the coin, and infer what will happen from a measure on the
continuations.

I'm delighted to learn that I understood you after all. Thanks for this
further clarification.

You are welcome.

>
>
>
>                      Read UDA, and ask question for each step, in case of
>problem, so we might single out the precise point where you don't succeed to
>grasp why comp put probabilities, or credibilities, uncertainties,  in front
>of
>everything. UDA1-7 is enough to get this. UDA-8 is needed only for the more
>subtle immateriality point implied by computationalism.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>My attempts to read UDA were never successful. Sorry.
>>
>>May be you have a problem with my english. Please, begin by the step one, on
>>page 4 of sane04, read it, and tell me precisely what you don't understand in
>>the step 1.  I might need to re-explain comp to you, or you can glance its
>>definition on page 2.

When you will grasp step 1, we will be able to go to the 2th step, and so one.

Bruno

I don't have a problem with your english. I have a problem with
the logical complexity of your work.

It is not simple, but not *that* difficult either (I mean UDA, AUDA needs a
background in logic which is not so well taught).

Also I no longer remember where to find the text you're referring to. Warmest
wishes,   marty

You can find the paper, and the unique slide to easily remember the different
steps here:

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html

Best,

Bruno

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/

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