On 06 Mar 2012, at 17:32, meekerdb wrote:

On 3/6/2012 4:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:It's a language game.The word "game" is so fuzzy that this says nothing at all. Gametheory is a branch of mathematics.But "language" says something. It says mathematics is aboutdescription.

`Mathematicians search what is language independent, and description`

`independent. They don't like when a result depends on the choice of a`

`base. Mathematics is more about structures and laws.`

`Math uses languages, but is not a language, even if it can be used as`

`such in physics. But there is more to that.`

`Are you agnostic about the question if reality is physical, or`

`mathematical, or theological or ?. To say that math is on description`

`seem a bit physicalist.`

`Comp makes the tiny sigma_1 segment of arithmetic rather fundamental.`

`We don't (nor can need) more "reality" than that, for this is from`

`inside (epistemologically, ...) *very* big, and structured. It is far`

`bigger from inside than from outside.`

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