On 19 Apr 2012, at 22:04, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hmm... They are not aware of the mind body problem
Nor am I aware of any such problem. The hardest part of the mind
body "problem" is figuring out what the hell the problem is.
There tuns of books. You might try McGuin, if you have a problem with
Nagel. Michael Tye wrote a good book too. See the references in my URL.
The religious demand a explanation of mind, by which they mean give
a description of mind in terms of something other than mind, as
using a thing to define itself is rather pointless;
That is what we can do with recursion equation. It explains self-
reproduction and self-reference. See my paper "amoeba, planaria and
dreaming machine".
so scientists do so and explain mind in terms of X (biological
brains, electronic computers, abstract Turing Machines, and other
things that are not mind ), but when they do so the religious
complain "but X is not mind!". Well of course X is not mind, if they
explained mind in terms of mind then it would be a pretty silly
explanation,
That depends on the theory you are choosing. And it is indeed a priori
more easy to explain something immaterial, like consciousness from
something immaterial, like numbers, than from primary matter, which we
still don't know what it is, or if that exists.
but fortunately they use things other than mind to explain how mind
works.
Elimanating often the qualia and consciousness. Material explanation
explains only the behavior.
By the way I read Krauss's "A Universe from Nothing" a few weeks ago
and thought it was excelent.
He does not explain where the physical laws come from, nor does he
addressed the consciousness issue.
But of course you need to develop your understanding of the mind-body
problem. The english literature contains many good texts. Then the UDA
explains how to reformulate the problem into a purely arithmetical
problem.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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