On 20 May 2012, at 18:27, Stephen P. King wrote:

On 5/20/2012 6:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:In Bruno's theory, the physical world is not computed by analgorithm, the physical world is the limit of all computationsgoing throught your current state... what is computable is yourcurrent state, an infinity of computations goes through it. So Idon't see the problem here, the UD is not an algorithm whichcomputes the physical world 4D or whatever.QuentinHi Quentin,Maybe you can answer some questions. These might be badlycomposed so feel free to "fix" them. ;-)1) If my "current state" is equivalent to a 4-manifold and the"next" state is also, what is connecting the two? Markov's prooftells us that it is not a algorithm. So what is it?

`Markov theorem says that giving two arbitrary "states", it is`

`undecidable to know if a "computation" will relate those states or not.`

It does not say that some states are not algorithmically linked.

`With computer it is not in general possible to know in advance if`

`states are related by computations. If they are, this can be usually`

`decided, but if there are not , well there are no algorithm for`

`deciding that in general.`

2) Is there another equivalent set of words for "the physical worldis the limit of all computations going through your current state"?3) Is there at least one physical system running the computations?Is the "physical universe" a purely subjective appearance/experiencefor each conscious entity? What is it that shifts from one state tothe next?4) What is the cardinality of "all computations"?

Aleph_0, when see in the third person picture.

`2^aleph_0, when seen in the first person picture (well, the 3-view on`

`the 1-views, because it is 1, from the 1_view on the 1_view). In that`

`case, arbitrary sequence of natural numbers play the role of oracle.`

5) Is the totality of what exists static and timeless and are all ofthe subsets of that totality static and timeless as well?

`Yes, for the basic ontological reality. No, for the epistemological`

`reality.`

6) Does all "succession of events" emerge only from the wellordering of Natural numbers?

Not for the physical events. (epistemological, with comp). Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.