On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If it is absolutely certain that you won't sleep under a bush tonight >> then it is impossible that you will do so and the probability is zero. >> My understanding is that you don't approve of this sort of certain as >> you believe it leaves no room for free will or even consciousness. > > I approve of it completely as an exercise in abstraction, but yes, I > am confident that a universe of probability alone cannot generate > sense of any kind. Probability alone cannot generate sense, for that you need a brain of some type. However, the brain must be either probabilistic or deterministic. You still haven't explained the third category, neither probabilistic nor deterministic. If I assert that I have special dice which are neither probabilistic nor deterministic, what am I asserting? How could we tell if I was telling the truth? >> It doesn't neutralise significance. In one universe you wake up in >> your bed and you tell yourself that you made a good decision, your bed >> is warm and comfortable and it would have been stupid to sleep under a >> bush. In another universe you wake up under a bush and you tell >> yourself that you made a good decision, even though you were cold and >> uncomfortable, because you have achieved your purpose of empathising >> better with homeless people. In each case you made your own decision, >> freely, with good reason and according to the laws of physics. Before >> you made the decision you were not completely sure which way you would >> go. Right now, you can say you're pretty sure you will wake up in your >> bed tomorrow and I would bet that that is what will happen, but you >> could change your mind. >> > > What point would there be to making any of those outcomes seem > significant to us if every bad decision inevitably has its own > universe anyhow, regardless of our choices? When I worry about a decision I worry about what sort of universe I will find myself in. In one universe I made a good decision and am happy, in another I made a bad decision and am unhappy. If I didn't worry about it, for example if I walked across the road without looking, then I am more likely to end up in a universe where I am unhappy. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.