On 6/1/2012 8:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
They seem to think this free will has some ability to manipulate the
Universe in ways that avoid it's laws.

Not the compatibilist one. I think free will is not prevented at all by determinism.

It just boils down to how you want to define 'free will'. The definition is "purposeful and free of coercion" is important because it plays a part in social judgement and legal assignment of responsibility. Determinism is thought to be inconsistent with responsibility because some cause outside yourself doesn't count as your responsibility; but given determinism each of your actions can be traced back to causes outside yourself, even to before your birth.


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