I need to slow down and just address this question of your as it
seems to be the point where we disconnect from understanding each other.
On 7/19/2012 10:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
At this stage I will ask you to define "physical".
The physical is the represented as the sum of incontrovertible
<http://www.thefreedictionary.com/incontrovertible> facts that mutually
communicating observers have in common. It is those facts that cannot be
denied without introducing contradictions, thus such things as
"hallucinations" and "mirages" are excluded. I guess that this
definition might seem tautological, but it seems to me to be the
explanation that has the longest reach in its power to explain what is
meant by the word. Additionally, physical refers to "objects of the
word" that have the qualities of persistence in type and location.
One might notice that if one only considers a single observer then
the notion of the physical that would be associated with that singular
observer becomes degenerate. Maybe this explains how it is that you come
to the conclusion of UDA step 8, that, as you wrote in SANE 04 "...not
only physics has been/epistemologically/reduced to machine psychology,
but that "matter" has been /ontologically/reduced to "mind" where mind
is defined as the object study of fundamental machine psychology." The
idea that "matter" is ontologically reduced to "mind" is true but but
only for the singular mind. One must reach outside of this singularity
to escape the automatic solipsism that is induced. Andrew Soltau's work,
IMHO, is an exploration of this escape.
What I have been proposing is that the illustration in your SANE04
paper "Physical stuff" -> 1 map that you have is the dual of a 1 ->
"Physical Stuff" map as per the Stone Duality. The duals both emerge
simultaneously from a neutral primitive: "Nothingness" as per Russell
<http://www.hpcoders.com.au/theory-of-nothing.pdf>. The ambiguous
statement of this emergence is: Everything emerges from Nothing as Dual
"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
~ Francis Bacon
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