Hi Stephen P. King 

The possible only exists in this world given enough time.
That is one practical argument against the creation of life in a deterministic 
Some say 19 billion years of random constructions isn't enough.

Roger , rclo...@verizon.net
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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From: Stephen P. King 
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Time: 2012-08-14, 23:17:02
Subject: Re: Earthquakes

On 8/14/2012 7:37 PM, Jason Resch wrote:

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net> wrote:

On 8/14/2012 10:45 AM, Roger wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King 

Leibniz' best possible world is a conjecture
based on L's two worlds of logic:

1) There is logic that is either always true or false, called the logic of 
reason or necessity.
        One could call this "theory"

2) The logic of contingency, also called the logic of "fact", experimental 
     or praxis, which can be true or false -- depending on the perfection  of 
the entity 
    or the time of occurrence. "actuality"

Most people who acccuse God of injustice or unfairness by a supposedly loving 
confuse theory with actuality. Earthquakes do occur because the world has 
or  cracks ior the cointinental plaes don't fit perfectly together.

And any fact must be that way for a reason, the reason also may be contingent, 
up the line.

"Everything that is possible demands to exist." -- Leibniz

If everything possible exists (in Plato's heaven / the omniscient mind of God) 
then so do all universes, all possible histories, all possible observations and 
experiences, all points of view, all traces of the execution of all programs, 
etc.  Thus, if God is omniscient, he can't help the fact that bad things happen.


Hi Jason,

    Yes, all that is necessarily possible exists. This makes existence neutral 
and having nothing to do with anything else. Properties arise from partitioning 
portions of what exists against each other. Properties, like truth values and 
locations, are not a priori. They are contextual and thus contingent. Existence 
is not contingent on anything other than raw necessary possibility.



"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed." 
~ Francis Bacon

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