Hi Richard Ruquist 

OK. That sounds basically right to me, except i don't understand the r--> 1/r 
part.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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String theory explains indirect monadic perception as the instantaneous mapping 
of the entire universe outside the monad to its interior in a r-> 1/r mapping, 
first derived by Brian Green in a two-dimensional approximation.


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King (and Richard)
?
That particles (strings) can "see" the universe the universe is different
from monadic (indirect) ?erception because monadic perception
does not occur by photons, distances are not involved,
and so is instantaneous.? Monadic perception is also somewhat 
imperfect (near-sighted and somewhat dim) in a practical sense,
whereas photons transmit information slower but perfectly.
?
This is? difficulty of a type I feared but didn't resolve when I
simply claimed that strings are monads. Obviously if the universe is
made up entirely of strings and entirely of monads there is likely some
corresponce?etween the two, but?t is not simply equivalence.
?
?
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/22/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."
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On 8/21/2012 8:07 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:

Roger, 


According to string theory the?onads do not "only see the external world 
through the eyes of the supreme monad 
(or CPU)". Rather?n string theory?ach individual, discrete, and distinct monad 
sees the entire universe instantly but without complete resolution. However 
integration of information allows for improved resolution. 


Hi Richard,

?? This is the same thing that Roger and I are claiming.




In string theory there is no supreme monad. Rather any such thing must be an 
intergrated or collective effect of many monads. Leibniz was not entirely 
correct. But he got the most important characteristic, that monads are so tiny 
as to be invisible. And that monads control the universe via the laws and 
constants of nature. 


?? The idea of the supreme is a figure of speech... We can approximate the 
supreme with limits...




Also there is no evidence in string theory that monads come in 3 types. But the 
fact that string theory predicts the 3 generations of particles in the Standard 
Model, suggests that it's possible that monads come in 3 varieties. But those 
varieties would have had to be available in the primordial, uninflated set of 
10 or more dimensions
Richard



?? Please read more detail on string theory, I hate to see you continue in such 
a mistake. :_( String theory is materialist nonsense.


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

Hi Stephen P. King 
?
To Idealists, the "real" is the idea or concept of a thing,
The thing as it it appears to us is a phenomenon.
?
This inversion of common sense was made by Leibniz
in order to get rid of the mind-body problem. There's
no problem really if both are just concepts.?hey don't
actually interact, but they can be conceived as interacting.
?
There is a?ricky point, and is I think? principal reason why L can 
be so confusing---- and critics have observed?hat even Leibniz can 
sometimes confuse the real with the phenomenal.
?
1) First of all, Idealists such as Leibniz. Berkeley and Kant consider 
IDEAS to be real, not the material or other phenomena they describe.
For these guys, the descriptions are real, not the things or phenomena they 
describe,
which admittedly are transitory.
?
Which is NOT to say that to Leibniz, the world out there is a hallucination.
No, it is just like it looks and he calls the world we see,
although phenomenal, "well-founded phenomena".
You can still stub your toe and feel pain,?illiard balls will all collide as
usual, etc. To all purposes, everything will seem normal.
?
2) The monads can only see the external world through the eyes of the supreme 
monad
(or CPU).? This is not direct sight,?or one thing monads afre not spaced in 
space or time
(perhaps heaven is like this ?). They don't really see the outside world,
they only see an infinite number of?f mirrors, those being reflections of the 
monad in question from the [points of view of the other monads.
?
?
?n the mirrors or "perceptions" of 
?
?
?
?
?
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
8/21/2012 
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."


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