What is thinking ? Parmenides thought that thinking and being are one, which 
IMHO I agree with.
Thoughts come to us from the Platonic realm, which I personally, perhaps 
associate with what would be Penrose's incomputable realm. 
Here is a brief discussion of technological or machine thinking vs lived 
IMHO Because computers cannot have lived experience, they cannot think.
Inquiry: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Philosophy 
Volume 46, Issue 3, 2003 

Thinking and Being: Heidegger and Wittgenstein on Machination and 
Version of record first published: 05 Nov 2010
Heidegger's treatment of 'machination' in the Beitr鋑e zur Philosophie begins 
the critique of technological thinking that would centrally characterize his 
later work. Unlike later discussions of technology, the critique of machination 
in Beitr鋑e connects its arising to the predominance of 'lived-experience' ( 
Erlebnis ) as the concealed basis for the possibility of a pre-delineated, 
rule-based metaphysical understanding of the world. In this essay I explore 
this connection. The unity of machination and lived-experience becomes 
intelligible when both are traced to their common root in the primordial Greek 
attitude of techne , originally a basic attitude of wondering knowledge of 
nature. But with this common root revealed, the basic connection between 
machination and lived-experience also emerges as an important development of 
one of the deepest guiding thoughts of the Western philosophical tradition: the 
Parmenidean assertion of the sameness of being and thinking. In the Beitr鋑e 's 
analysis of machination and lived-experience, Heidegger hopes to discover a way 
of thinking that avoids the Western tradition's constant basic assumption of 
self-identity, an assumption which culminates in the modern picture of the 
autonomous, self-identical subject aggressively set over against a 
pre-delineated world of objects in a relationship of mutual confrontation. In 
the final section, I investigate an important and illuminating parallel to 
Heidegger's result: the consideration of the relationship between experience 
and technological ways of thinking that forms the basis of the late 
Wittgenstein's famous rule-following considerations.

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything 
could function."

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