On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>wrote:

  > A have to side a bit with John here as the "truthfulness" of a concept
> is different from the "meaningfulness".

Yes they are different. 2+2=5 is meaningful but not truthful. 2+2=4 is
meaningful and truthful. "Man has qewhrwv" or "Man has free will" is not
meaningful and therefore is neither truthful nor untruthful, it is noise.

 John K Clark

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