I see all of our experiences, including dreams and delusions as being physical, but not necessarily “real”. To me, realism is a loose term describing the ‘middle of the road’ range of experiences in which bodies and minds are clearly separate. The contrasting ‘unreal’ ranges are the profoundly spiritual/psychedelic/psychotic experiences and the profoundly logical/mathematical/abstracted principles, both of which can be understood as signifying real or more-than-real referents.
*Physical* (< *Unrealism *of *Logic* < *Realism* of *Bodies and Space* ⊥ * Realism* of *Experiences and Time* > *Unrealism* of *Psyche* >)* *Metaphysical* = Hypothetically outside of spacetime and matter. *Energy* = Logical conceptualization of the perception and participation of material bodies in spacetime. *Information* = Logical conceptualization of logic in spacetime. *Logic* = Phenomenology turned in on itself - subjectivity that seeks to evacuate subjectivity of itself, leaving purely universal and involuntary truths as a residual product. *Psyche* = Deep phenomenology. Unconstrained by logic, subjectivity is free to sense and dream itself into transpersonal and near-metaphysical ranges of experience. * This is the Multisense Continuum, which is involuted like a Mobius strip, and can be shuffled and turned around: < *Unrealism *of *Logic* < *Realism* of *Bodies and Space* ⊥ *Realism* of *Experiences and Time* > *Unrealism* of *Psyche* > (⊥ = “perpendicular/orthogonal fold” relation of Pedestrian Realism, ie supermarket reality). ⊥ *Realism* of *Experiences and Time* > *Unrealism* of *Psyche* > < *Unrealism *of *Logic *< *Realism* of *Bodies and Space* ⊥ (> < = “evanescent dissolve” relation of Profound Unrealism, ie hypnogogic trance, epiphany, transcendence, enlightnenment) The contemporary cosmology I would describe this way: Information ↔ Laws of Physics > Energy ↔ Matter ⊥ Space ↔ Time The problems with this are embodied as problems with Idealism, Materialism, and Infocentrism, with each being unable to account for the prominence of the other without disqualifying it. Materialism makes information and subjectivity unreal, Idealism makes matter and spacetime unreal, Infocentricism makes matter and subjectivity unreal. Each of these three views have a blind spot for their own bias, which becomes pathological when applied in a thoroughly literal way to the the universe. Living beings become indistinguishable from programmed robots and animated cadavers. The world becomes an illusion conjurable by codes. We paint ourselves into a corner so that we are forced to conceive of ourselves paradoxically as epiphenomenal voyeurs yet inevitably omnipotent masters of the universe and ourselves. My approach, of course, is to weigh anchor with sense itself, as the primordial prerequisite of being and doing that is beneath and above all forms, materials, spaces, times, and subjective experiences. A neutral monism which projects itself within itself, always through juxtaposed experiences. Sense puts the 'in' into information and makes structures matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/jHjKd7AGTAYJ. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.