You said it: ."...in part because it (evolution) carried a sense of "progress" not found in Darwin's idea"
Evolution is descriptive, is the fact. natural selection is the theory that explain it. A scientific theory impose constraints with what may and may not happen. For example, child caring and risk taking at the same time may not happen. That´s why progressives prefer the term evolution rather than natural selection. They want no constraints for his will of the transformation of themselves and their society according with its will. 2012/12/13 Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> > > > On Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:48:45 AM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote: >> >> so awareness and intention are before biology, so you seem to admit a >> teleology before life, like me. >> > > Teleology and teleonomy both predate life. They are what time is made of. > > >> I don`t find this incompatible with natural selection (or evolution, as >> left-leaning people likes to call it) >> > > Hahaha, I wasn't aware that the very term evolution was now politicized. > Actually it looks like Darwin preferred another term: > > Charles Darwin used the word only once, in the closing paragraph of "The >> Origin of Species" (1859), and preferred descent with modification, in >> part because evolution already had been used in the 18c. homunculus >> theory of embryological development (first proposed under this name by >> Bonnet, 1762), in part because it carried a sense of "progress" not found >> in Darwin's idea. But Victorian belief in progress prevailed (along with >> brevity), and Herbert Spencer and other biologists popularized evolution. >> >> http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=evolution >> > > So the reason that evolution was not Darwin's choice is precisely because > he understood that it is not teleological. > > >> . You seem to admit natural selection up to a point but you reject it >> when we are talking to sensible human things like the sexual roles. >> > > Yes, natural selection only shapes things that already exist, it doesn't > bring awareness or qualities of awareness into existence. > > >> You enjoy the fact that NS made female hyenas to behave in some >> politically correct ways (it seems). but you reject that NS selection make >> female humans behave as is in almost all the rest of the animal kingdom. >> That´t funny. >> > > I think it's funny that you think I'm citing some evidence supporting a > left wing agenda. I'm only showing you that gender is not written in stone. > It's something that most people are already aware of - although if you are > over 60 then you have an excuse. > > Craig > > >> >> . >> >> 2012/12/13 Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> >> >>> doing >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Alberto. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/sdpVQn09vMYJ. > > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.