If this were done in real life, my guess is that Bruno_w dies in the 
transporter (sorry Bruno), and a disoriented amnesiac identical twin is 
born at every transporter location. I don't know if these clones would even 
survive, I think they would be brain dead and lacking a heartbeat but maybe 
could be resuscitated as infants in adult bodies. They might have odd 
discoveries of recovered memories of a past life as Bruno.

On Friday, December 14, 2012 4:50:45 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
>  On 12/14/2012 12:54 PM, John Clark wrote: 
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Bruno Marchal <mar...@ulb.ac.be<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>  > In the 3p-view. But with the Computationalist Theory of Mind (CTM, 
>> alias comp), there are two first person points of view
> Yes, Bruno Marchal has said that many times and it's true that after the 
> duplication there will be 2 first person Bruno Marchal points of view, but 
> the problem is that before the duplication there is only one first person 
> point of view at it is here the question is asked about the future state of 
> "you" and demands are made for one and only one answer.  
> John Clark has been complaining about the unfettered use of personal 
> pronouns in a world with duplicating chambers for a long time now, and yet 
> those who disagree with John Clark continue to use those pronouns as 
> frequently as ever, it seems that those people just cannot help themselves. 
> The very fact that opponents are simply unable to express ideas without 
> using those cancerous pronouns should give those people some insight into 
> the nature of those aforesaid ideas. 
>   > you just limit yourself to the 3p view, and never put you feet in the 
>> shoes of the reconstituted person,
> And Bruno Marchal never explains which of those two first person points of 
> view "you" should put feet into and which first person viewpoint "you" 
> should not. Bruno Marchal simply cannot converse on this subject unless 5 
> to 10% of the words are personal pronouns, in spite of the fact that if it 
> was always clear what those pronouns referred to this entire debate would 
> be unnecessary.
> Brent Meeker appreciates John Clark's concern with pronouns.  I think it 
> needs to put in the context of QM, which is what Bruno is proposing to 
> explain.  Suppose Bruno is Helsinki and he steps in a transporter and it 
> sends him to Washington. That Bruno, Bruno_w goes back to Helsinki, gets in 
> the transporter again and it sends him to Moscow. That Bruno_wm goes back 
> to Helsinki and repeats this process many times.  Eventually 
> Bruno_wmwwmwmmmww...mwm concludes that the transporter seems to be random 
> and just sends him to Washington or Moscow at random with probability 1/2.  
> This is hailed as a great discovery...in Copenhagen.  But in Washington 
> (state) near the upper reached of Puget Sound there is a dislike of random 
> things and a general feeling that randomness can never be a property of the 
> world, but only a quantification of ignorance.  So there a different view 
> of Bruno_wmwwmwmmmww...mwm's experiment is that every time he pushed the 
> button two whole universes were created, separated by more than the Hubble 
> radius, and in one Bruno went to Bruno_w and in the other he went to 
> Bruno_m.  And so there was no probability involved, exactly the same thing 
> happened every time.  It only seemed like probability and randomness.  Some 
> people thought this was a little extravagant and asked how was energy 
> conserved and how could this theory be tested.  But they were silenced by 
> being told the theory predicted exactly the same things as the probability 
> theory without probabilities, so it must be right.
> Brent
> Not only does God play dice, but... he sometimes throws them 
> where they cannot be seen.
>     --- Stephen W. Hawking 

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