On 12/15/2012 4:21 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:50:36 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 12/15/2012 2:55 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:51:40 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
I beg to differ.
My hero, Calvin Coolidge, the arch conservative of all time,
"Don't just do something.....Stand there."
That's great if you are already standing on top of a mountain of
inherited privilege. Why not stand there? But why should anyone
other than the ruling minority of the world be compelled to agree?
Ah, the chestnuts of Social Justice theory. So are we bound
and shackled to a position in life by things over which we
individually have no control? No, not ever!
There is a difference between being conscious of your position and of
other people's position and being bound or shackled by it. Knowing
that you are living in a country in which your ancestors were actually
literally bound and shacked by the ancestors of your landlord and your
boss is not something you should have to pretend doesn't shape your
Good, some pushback from your own mind!! OK, let us look at this
hypothesis: X "is not something you should have to pretend doesn't shape
your opportunities" Y such that Y is the current state of "being what
you are" and X is "what one's ancestors where" and X is the predecesor
of Y in some sequence. This means that some past state of being exactly
determined that what you are now and thus you are nothing other than a
copy of their state."
Do you agree that "who you are (in a total sense) is exactly
determined by some other people who are just like you but that are not you"?
This kind of thinking is identical to the doctrine of the fall
that the Abrahamics use to subdue the masses by the means of
guilt. I reject the entire idea that I have a debt to pay because
some ancestor of mine may have done X, Y or Z.
I don't suggest that. I don't suggest guilt. I suggest consideration
of those who are not in your position.
Clear the room of all childrens, pets and non-insured.
_/*HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW I AM NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION
Breath deeply .... OK. Calm
Can you answer my question?
The point of knowing the history of genocide and oppression in America
and the role that it played and continues to play in our standard of
living (for the 0.01% especially) is not to inspire guilt at all, it
is to inspire genuine compassion and understanding. It is an
invitation to see things from the staggeringly different perspective
of the people living next door, or on the other side of town.
It is well understood that to draw conclusions from a non-faithful
sample of a population is to bias any possible prediction. Why are you
focusing on some partition of some equivalence class: "white, green,
pink, yellow, purple, black,... or "latino, texano, letivo, ... or what
ever some finite list you can come up with to be "a faithful sample" of
Reality? I am not interested in any proclamation by a person or whatever
that cannot possibly be true!
Faithfull samples are such that they exactly match one-to-one with
their total ensemble iff number of variants that total ensemble goes to
infinity. No difference at all between what "it is" and what "made it".
Nice, so we have a neat way of matching up the ancestors of some "crime"
we define now to exist in the world and some presently existing person
or thing that has that ancestor.
Oh Shit! If my Dad is a Jew and my mother is a Cambodian and their
parents .... I will be a victim from any point of view and thus
genocide!!!!! Must be avenged!
Think about what I am saying. People statistics is amazing when
used correctly and not hard to figure out!
We are all the same All-Soul in different circumstances, not able
to see past the momentary differences between what we think we are
and what we really are.
Some momentary differences last for many lifetimes though.
Yep they sure are. Especially those that are manipulated to become
edge issues. Political science is fun too, it is just the study of
interacting chaotic systems! ;-)
_Any action that merely highlights differences is an error to be
avoided. Seek truth, eliminate errors..__
Yep. A nice line, I must say so myself.
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