Hi Richard Ruquist 

How so ?


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/20/2012 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen

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From: Richard Ruquist 
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Time: 2012-12-20, 12:45:56
Subject: Re: Re: The pro-life paradox


Roger,

I am amused the a believer like you
does not factor in your thinking
the existence of the afterlife.
Richard

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Bruno Marchal
>
> There is a gray area called "quality of life".
>
>
> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
> 12/20/2012
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>
>
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> From: Bruno Marchal
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> Time: 2012-12-20, 05:12:10
> Subject: Re: The pro-life paradox
>
>
> On 19 Dec 2012, at 17:01, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:49, Roger Clough wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stephen P. King
>>
>> I define good as that which enhances life and evil
>> as that which diminishes it.
>>
>>
>> Is pro-life activism enhancing life or diminishing life?
>>
>> Some pro-life doctor are against euthanasia, even passive euthanasia, with
>> the result that they transform dying patient into machines. But most of them
>> are naive believer, and as such, they disbelieve comp, and so their pro-life
>> activity begins to be contradictory.
>>
>> The question is: does an artificial, or even virtual body, enhance life
>> or suppress life?
>>
>> Bruno
>>
>>
>
> That's tricky.
>
> The aristotelean pro-life doctor does not believe she/he is turning the
> dying patient into a machine. That Doctor thinks they are saving the
> universe from one of its fundamental properties: death, entropy. I don't
> know if most of them are "naive believer" in the sense that most doctors in
> this domain are well aware that it is a loosing battle, and I guess "outing"
> yourself as "pro-euthanasia" carries some heavy implications in your day to
> day practice, interaction, and judgement from peers, directors, and
> employers. I guess, most would be "cooler" with this if they could. So
> "naive believer", yeah maybe some, but more I'd guess live in fear of
> getting their voice heard.
>
> To tackle the question straight-on:
>
> 1) depends on manufacturer, market, price and warranty conditions, and the
> local universe. You did remember to submit the appropriate forms before
> rental of "Bruno", didn't you? I say this, because it seems like sometimes
> you forget with this kind of question :)
>
>
> I am not sure I get the point. Mine was only that the pro-life doctor will
> transform people into machine (as they do already somehow), and that can
> contradict the general anti-mechanist prejudice of many pro-life activists.
>
>
>
>
> 2) Heidegger was just joking. Nobody was "thrown"; he just got a bit of
> nausea after signing all the soul-body binding contracts and wants
> modification of warranty terms. I don't know whether his appeal was heard by
> the courts, any of you?
>
>
> Lol. But still don't see the point. keep in mind that logicians are simple
> mind :)
>
>
>
> 3) But after flying for platonic infinities through every possible universe
> as a disembodied soul eye with infinite memory at any speed you wished, you
> would go sign up for another round to be entangled with some strange
> universe physically again and push the "format disk" button once again and
> agree to all constraints, just for novelty's sake and say "sh*t, it's boring
> here... but I am no chicken, I choose a local universe where aristoteleans
> are winning, just to make it more interesting, because the platonic
> localities are too much already like here...also, I'll choose one where
> matter is really convincing and makes us unable to define life properly, so
> that I can pose this question in a forum someday, and confuse the others a
> bit, hehe."
>
>
> OK. But for once, my question was terrestrial. Of course such question makes
> less global sense in Platonia, but can still make sense locally, even there.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
> :)
>
> Cowboy
>
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