Hi meekerdb 

Can you suggest a scientific method to prove or disprove
the solipsism puzzle ?


[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/28/2012 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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Time: 2012-12-27, 20:11:51
Subject: Re: Three things that one cannot prove or disprove


On 12/27/2012 4:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Roger Clough<rclo...@verizon.net> wrote

This is a silly game. There are different kinds and standards of proof. 
Mathematical 
theorems are proven by following defined rules of inference from given axioms. 
Legal 
proof is by 'preponderance of the evidence' or 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. 
Science 
doesn't even to pretend to 'prove' things, although it can prove some theories 
are false 
in the 'beyond reasonable doubt' sense.

> Three things that one cannot prove or disprove
>
> 1. That God exists or does not exist.

Depends on what you mean by "God". The omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent 
God of 
Christianity does not exist because his definition is incoherent and also the 
evidence is 
against him beyond a reasonable doubt. But if he not omnibenevolent, like the 
Deist god, 
those disproofs don't apply

>
> 2. That I exist or do not exist.

If you didn't exist you couldn't ask for a proof.

>
> 3. That computers can be conscious or not.

Just like other scientific questions it is beyond a reasonable doubt that most 
computers 
are not, but if computers exhibit suffciently intelligent behavior their 
consciousness 
will be established beyond a reasonable doubt.

Brent

> It's possible to prove that computers can be conscious if it can be
> proved that the physical movement of the parts of the brain can be
> simulated by a computer.
>
>

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