# Re: Re: Re: Escaping from the world of 3p Flatland

Hi Russell Standish

2p is clearly needed for perception, as explained by Peirce.

[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
12/29/2012
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From: Russell Standish
Time: 2012-12-29, 01:21:53
Subject: Re: Re: Escaping from the world of 3p Flatland

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 08:29:52AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> 2p should be a necessary part of comp, espcially if it uses synthetic logic.
> It doesn't seem to be needed for deductive logic, however.
>
> The following equivalences should hold between comp
> and Peirce's logical categories:
>
> 3p = Thirdness or III
> 2p = Secondness or II
> 1p = Firstness or I.
>
> Comp seems to only use analytic or deductive logic,
> while Peirce's categories are epistemological (synthetic
> logic) categories, in which secondness is an integral part.
> So .
>
> Here's what Peirce has to say about his categorioes:
>
> http://www.helsinki.fi/science/commens/terms/secondness.html
>
>
> "Firstness is the mode of being of that which is such as it is,
> positively and without reference to anything else.
>
> Secondness is the mode of being of that which is such as it is,
> with respect to a second but regardless of any third.
>
> Thirdness is the mode of being of that which is such as it is,
> in bringing a second and third into relation to each other."
> (A Letter to Lady Welby, CP 8.328, 1904)"
>

Thanks for the definition, but how does that relate to 1p and 3p? I
cannot see anything in the definitions of firstness and thirdness that
relate to subjectivity and objectivity.

As I said before, I do not even know what 2p could be.

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