On 1/17/2013 7:11 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/17/2013 7:28 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com
You have to prove that the CO2 is the main ingredient of global warming.
Ok. So Greenhouse effect is "alarmist fantasy" to you. This makes things
But it is not. It is water vapor by orders of magnitude. And the water
concentration, and the clouds depends on cosmic rays, and cosmic rays
solar activity and the variation on the earth orbit. The hockey stick
(false) is of
temperatures. And temperatures are falling now, like were falling in the
most likely evolution is towards a new ice age, as you can see clearly in
CO2 do no predict increase of temperatures, it is just the contrary You
that in the graphic. increase of temperature precedes CO2 increase. This is
by the increased erosion or carbonate rocks in the litosphere and the
CO2 by oceans when temperature raises. The causes of the cycles that you
the graphic are due to the orbit of earth around the sun, there is no CO2
but the opposite. the correlation exist, but the causation is just the
the promoted by the alarmists.
Natural sources of CO2 exceed the antropogenic production by orders of
single eruption can produce more CO2 than the entire human population in a
You're right in that it's naturally messy enough.
But so what? 313 ppm in 1960 to 390 ppm in 2010, with current measured amount of CO2
exceeding geological maximum values; I just don't see the logic of adding to this
mindlessly by burning more black stuff. I do see the plausibility of shooting for long
term energy solutions that add, burn, or otherwise muck around with the fragile global
ecology, our only home at the moment, less. And I'm open to all of it, hemp prominently
included, provided that we burn/waste less in the long run.
No final solutions. These problems will not leave, regardless of our capacity to deny
Your making a straw man argument, mate! Even if we stipulate as a fact that
"...current measured amount of CO2 exceeding geological maximum values", this does
nothing to force decisions such as how not to "muck around with the fragile global
ecology". It is the home of all of us, not jush some elite few that wish the rest us us
to stop breathing. I have read the papers of the alarmist with eyes wide open, there is
lots of discussion of how to "reduce populations" and so forth. There is even chatter
about "crimes against nature" tribunals for those that "deny the consensus science".
How about some actual quotes and citations - lest we suspect you of creating a
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