On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2013, at 18:44, Richard Ruquist wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>> You seem to not having yet realize that with comp, not only materialism is
>> wrong, but also weak materialism, that is, the doctrine asserting the
>> primary existence of matter, or the existence of primary matter.
>> We are, well, not in the matrix, but in infinities of purely arithmetical
>> matrices. matter is an appearance from inside.
>> My point is not that this is true, but that it follows from comp, and that
>> computer science makes this enough precise so that we can test it.
> Is it possible that the existence of matter from comp as a dream of the
> Quantum Mind happened once and for all time way back in time?
> I am still unsure what you mean by "quantum mind". If by quantum you mean
> the usual quantum mechanics, it should appear as the natural view of
> arithmetic (numberland, computerland) seen from inside. You can say that
> mind and matter exist as a view of the (totally atemporal and aspatial)
> number reality. It is time itself which "appears", in a non tempral sense,
> but a logical sense, from the elementary number relation. As amazing it
> might seem, comp makes really a theory like
> x + 0 = x
> x + s(y) = s(x + y)
> x *0 = 0
> x*s(y) = x*y + x
> or like
> ((K, x), y) = x
> (((S, x), y), z) = ((x, z), (y, z))
> into authentical (and equivalent) "theories of everything" (mind, force and
> stuff). The rest are definition and theorems. Those theories are complete
> and even non completeable. If string theory is the correct physics, then it
> has to be derived from the relation above. And I can explain that we get
> more, as we will get the non communicable part of truth too (the qualia).
> Normally we will go through some steps of this on FOAR. On this list, I have
> explained many things, but the list is too voluminous to search.
It seems that you have avoided my question
by questioning what I mean by quantum mind.
So let me rephrase it.
Could arithmetics produce matter once and for all a long time ago?
Or must the illusion of matter be constantly reinforced by arithmetics?
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