On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:44:14 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 24 Jan 2013, at 21:49, meekerdb wrote:
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>  On 1/24/2013 12:19 PM, Jason Resch wrote: 
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> Bruno,
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> What is meant by the informational interpretations?  Is that something 
> like the one Ron Garrett presented?
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> It's the view most advocated by Asher and Fuchs, that the WF is just an 
> encoding of what the experimenter knows about the physical system based on 
> its preparation.
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> Yes. It is close to Pauli and Heisenberg's idea that the quantum state 
> does not describe a "real physical state", but only a relative knowledge 
> state.
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> The computationalist shift "worlds ==> dreams" should please to both them, 
> and to the MWI defenders, but of course, it can also makes them both 
> nervous. 
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> Many points of view overlap much more than what their defenders believe. 
> The problem is that they don't try to define terms like "information", 
> "observers", "physical", etc. I would say that more than 50% of the 
> apparent disagreement are really due to vocabulary problem. It is 
> unavoidable in inter and trans-disciplinary studies.
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> Bruno
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The more people try to define "information" the more that they will find 
that there is nothing there but the presence of sensory-motor experience in 
one set of qualitative modalities, re-presented through another set of the 
same.

Craig


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> Brent
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> The informational and MW together got 42% of the vote, equal to Copenhagen.
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> Jason
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> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Bruno Marchal <mar...@ulb.ac.be<javascript:>
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>>  On 24 Jan 2013, at 04:03, Gary Oberbrunner wrote:
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>>  http://arxiv.org/pdf/1301.1069v1.pdf  See question 12.
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>>  Interesting. Thanks.
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>>  A bit sad, also.
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>>  If it takes time to understand the MWI of the SWE (which writes it 
>> almost explicitly), I guess it will take time to understand the universal 
>> machine's many worlds interpretation of arithmetic.
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>>  Bruno
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