On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:44:14 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Jan 2013, at 21:49, meekerdb wrote: > > On 1/24/2013 12:19 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > Bruno, > > What is meant by the informational interpretations? Is that something > like the one Ron Garrett presented? > > > It's the view most advocated by Asher and Fuchs, that the WF is just an > encoding of what the experimenter knows about the physical system based on > its preparation. > > > Yes. It is close to Pauli and Heisenberg's idea that the quantum state > does not describe a "real physical state", but only a relative knowledge > state. > > The computationalist shift "worlds ==> dreams" should please to both them, > and to the MWI defenders, but of course, it can also makes them both > nervous. > > Many points of view overlap much more than what their defenders believe. > The problem is that they don't try to define terms like "information", > "observers", "physical", etc. I would say that more than 50% of the > apparent disagreement are really due to vocabulary problem. It is > unavoidable in inter and trans-disciplinary studies. > > Bruno > > The more people try to define "information" the more that they will find that there is nothing there but the presence of sensory-motor experience in one set of qualitative modalities, re-presented through another set of the same.
Craig > > > > Brent > > > > The informational and MW together got 42% of the vote, equal to Copenhagen. > > Jason > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> >> On 24 Jan 2013, at 04:03, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: >> >> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1301.1069v1.pdf See question 12. >> >> >> >> Interesting. Thanks. >> >> A bit sad, also. >> >> If it takes time to understand the MWI of the SWE (which writes it >> almost explicitly), I guess it will take time to understand the universal >> machine's many worlds interpretation of arithmetic. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6054 - Release Date: 01/24/13 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
