On 2/6/2013 5:31 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:38 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
On 2/5/2013 9:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 05 Feb 2013, at 18:10, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/2/5 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be <mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>>
On 05 Feb 2013, at 14:34, Roger Clough wrote:
There's nothing wrong with science as science.
But a problem arises when you apply the results to theology.
Two completely different worlds.
That's indeed a point where string atheists agree with string
us try to be not serious on theology, so we can assert the fairy tales.
Christian are happy because they feel like they can contradict the
evidences, and the atheists are happy so they can continue to mock the
christians, and continue to sleep on their own (materialist) dogma.
You put meaning in atheism which is not there... an atheist can perfectly
idealist... materialism is not part of the definition of atheism.
Definition here are often contradictory. Some years ago, the definition
Can you give me the name of an atheist who is idealist?
Almost all of them by my definition of a-theist, e.g. Bosanquet, Fichte,
McTaggart,... Of course by your definition, hardly anyone is an atheist
would be denying there is anything fundamental; something like "It's
turtles all the
If you refer to Johann Gottlieb...Fichte was definitely not an atheist by your
definition. In "Grundlage der gesamten Wissenschaftlehre" he refers constantly to the
"absolute I", not to be confused with the individual. In later writing you see this
morph into interchangeable uses of "absolute", "being", and "god", which German
scholarly consensus considers unambiguous today. "True Self-discovery", including all
the extensions of self into action and its products, is the same as "God discovery", and
that philosophers have no role, but to remind of this connection. That was the
controversy that got him in trouble as blasphemy to religious interests, the inversion
of man's "fallenness" into "God, if on truthful self-discovery", not a denial of god.
It was my understanding that he believed in a creator god, but not the god of theism that
is all-good and wants to be worshiped and answers prayers.
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