On 06 Feb 2013, at 19:04, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Telmo Menezes
<te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not claiming that intelligence == mind.
> Do you believe that your fellow human beings have minds? If so why?
> Yes (weakly).
You believe that only weakly?! Do you really think there is a 49%
chance that you are the only conscious being in the universe? By
the way, I don't believe other people have minds when they are
sleeping or under anesthesia or dead because when they are in those
states they don't behave very intelligently.
> Occam's razor. If I'm the only human being with a mind, then, for
some mysterious reason, there are two types of human beings: me
(with a mind) and the others (zombies). So heuristically I'm
inclined to believe that all human beings have a mind,
OK, but if you also believe in Darwin's theory of Evolution then you
must also believe that consciousness MUST be a byproduct of
intelligence because Evolution can't directly see consciousness any
better than we can and so cannot select for it, and yet you and
probably other people are conscious.
This not valid. You don't need to believe in any religion to see why
that point is just not valid.
Bruno
Thus you must also believe that if a computer is intelligent then it
is conscious. Then you must also believe that intelligence == mind.
> although I know I will never be able to prove it.
I agree on that point.
John K Clark
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