On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be >> >>> said >> >>> about its "character"? I know from a formal perspective the answer is >> >>> nothing, because nothing formal can be said about truth. >> >>> >> >>> This is more of an informal question, and comes out of my innate >> >>> desire >> >>> to anthropomorphize. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Why would you suppose that your desire to anthropomorphize is anything >> >>> other than wishful thinking? Do you also have a desire to >> >>> anthropormorphize >> >>> the periodic table? the solar system? the infinitesimal calculus? >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Within comp, there are many minds that have infinite computations >> >> resources at their disposal. They can evolve forever, and approach >> >> infinite >> >> intelligence and knowledge. >> >> >> >> >> >> You're just making this up. >> > >> > >> > I'm not. Look in the universal dovetailer and you will find such >> > intelligent processes with unlimited memory and processing at their >> > disposal, in fact you will find an infinite number of them. >> > >> >> >> >> The evidence is that smarter people tend to have fewer children and so >> >> evolution doesn't necessary favor intelligence. It is also quite >> >> possible >> >> that evolution always leads to a stage of species growth which so >> >> exploits >> >> the environment of its planet that is goes extinct within a few hundred >> >> thousand years. >> > >> > >> > I don't see how this is an argument against my assertion that there >> > exist >> > intelligences with infinite computational resources (assuming >> > arithmetical >> > realism). >> > >> >> >> The physics of holographic universes suggest that computations are >> limited by the number of bits of information available for >> computation. At present the limit appears to be 10^120 bits, the >> so-called Lloyd limit, and with future prospects of less than 10^122 >> bits based on the cosmology constant (or Dark Energy). >> Richard >> > > Richard, > > I think you might have missed a key point of what I said, which was that > these intelligences exist "within comp", not within our own, possibly > holographic, universe. > > Jason
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