On 2/19/2013 8:08 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Stephen P. King
<stephe...@charter.net <mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote:
On 2/19/2013 12:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Richard Ruquist
<yann...@gmail.com <mailto:yann...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Jason Resch
<jasonre...@gmail.com <mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb
<meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>> On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote:
>> If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is
there to be said
>> about its "character"? I know from a formal perspective
the answer is
>> nothing, because nothing formal can be said about truth.
>> This is more of an informal question, and comes out of my
innate desire to
>> Why would you suppose that your desire to anthropomorphize
>> other than wishful thinking? Do you also have a desire to
>> the periodic table? the solar system? the infinitesimal
> Within comp, there are many minds that have infinite
> at their disposal. They can evolve forever, and approach
> intelligence and knowledge. They all explore the same
> and thus having the same data (that of mathematical truth
> together with near infinite intelligence, they are almost
never wrong on any
> question or matter. Thus, despite possibly different
origins, they are all
> of a like mind, opinion, and possibly character. The
number of fundamental
> questions on which these super intelligence disagree goes
towards zero as
> their intelligence goes towards infinity.
If our universe is holographic, the computational resources are
limited to the Lloyd Limit of 10^120 bits, with a maximum
I was not proposing that our universe could support infinite
computational resources, but that some other universes might, and
intelligent beings/civilizations in those universes are unbounded.
Would you care to speculate whether or not those demi-gods (in
other universes that have access to infinite resources) would have
Platonist theories of mathematics?
Any question to me of the form "Do I think the demi-gods will believe
X", boils down to "Do I think X is correct?". I think you know where
I stand on Platonist theories of mathematics. Whether or not the
demi-gods also believe it mostly depends on whether its correct or if
it has more credence than the other alternatives.
It seems to me that the demi-gods would not be motivated to have
Platonist-like ontologies. As I see things, only we of finite resources
concoct such Platonist theories to give ourselves the illusion of
superpowers to explain away the mysterious fact that we can understand
mathematics. I have yet to see a neo-Platonist explain without
hand-waving how it is that a physical brain can access knowledge from
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